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 Post subject: Caution Bow Kite: The Answer
PostPosted: Thu Mar 23, 2006 4:55 pm 
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Got to demo the new Caution 12m Bow kite. One day blowing 10-15mph, the other day in the morning blowing 15-25mph, then in the afternoon blowing 20-35mph.. Here are some comments:

Bar setup: Like this a lot. Chicken loop covered in plastic coating, spinning chicken loop, nice leash attachment option(kind of like hooking into a 5th line leash setup). Looks and feels solid. Has two "slingshot style" locking balls on it. One above the bar, one below... very nice.

Kite looks: Looks good. Seems pretty solid. Some stitching a little off with the scuff guards, but other than that, looks good.

Speed: Good speed. Definitely faster than some of the other 12m Bow kites(turbo diesel, cabrinhas, liquid Force assault, Shockwave). About the same speed as the Waroo 12m.

Power through the turns: Good...lots of power through a bottom turn..one of the things I liked best about this kite

killing the power for riding waves, or safety: Not the best compared to the other Bow kites...probably the worst of them all, but I think they designed it like that. The chicken loop rope length is short..as short as any normal 4 or 5 line bar setup. When you push the bar all the way away from you(or let go of the bar) it doesn't kill all the power of the kite. Feels about the same as if you did that with a normal 4 or 5 line kite. I personally liked that alot about this kite, because I still prefer C shape kites.... for those who prefer the instant depower or power kill switch, they probably won't like it as much... all a personal preference thing. But, for dropping in on a wave where you want to push the bar out to kill most of the power...it wasn't that good...

Jumping: Very nice..super high jumps and holds you up there...very similar to a normal C-shape kite in terms of technique and how to jump it...

Bar Pressure: Very light..one of the lightest..probably about the same as the Sonic..maybe a little less than the Waroo...WAY less than the Crossbow, Shockwave, etc...

Low End: Seemed pretty good...I rode the 12m Switchblade and 12m Waroo right after this one, and they definitely fealt more powerful than this kite. Still more power than a normal 12m C shape, but not as much as some of the other 12m bows...

High End: Pretty good. Again, not as much total range due to the shorter chicken loop rope. More than a C Shape kite, but not more than other bows of equal size... We had a few stray strong gusts probably in the mid 30's if not stronger, and when I edged hard against them, the wing tips folded in a few times...I didn't like that, but when I brought the kite down, it was a little soft...may have had a slow leak, because it was rock hard when I took off earlier...so, not sure if that was due to it being soft, or if in extreme winds for that size, it will do that.... more to follow on that...

Overall: This kite was really fun to ride and I liked it a lot. Like any kite, there are positives and negatives. For those C shape guys/gals (like me) that have been holding back on getting a Bow kite because it feels totally different, this may be a good choice for you. For those who want complete depower with just a quick push of the bar away from you, you may not like this kite as much as some of the others. I would say this is very similar to the Waroo in terms of how it flew, fealt, etc.., but the Waroo has a little more depower because of the longer chicken loop rope. So all in all, closer to a C shape than the others, but with some of the advantages of a bow kite... A good mix in my opinion....


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 23, 2006 4:58 pm 
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 14, 2006 5:31 pm 
in terms of resolving what some may see as a depower issue couldn't this be solved simply by using a bar similar to the waroo bar? i.e using a bar with a longer chicken loop? you could also use a waroo bar with stopper balls to get the both of best worlds couldn't you? i am assuming all line lengths are equal. for me personally i would want to be able to ride it more like a 'c' kite on flat water by fixing the stopper ball or balls in an ideal position then go for the extreme depower when wave riding or when riding on stupidily gusty days. any further impressions on wind range?


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 15, 2006 9:50 am 
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Yes...a different bar(one with longer chicken loop rope) would depower it as much as the Waroo, ION, Sonic, etc... it is just the way the bar is, that prevents it from totally killing the power when you push the bar all the way up. It kills about 80% of the power. It still has 100% depower when you let go of the bar completely(unhooking and letting go...) that is when it pulls on the leash, which pulls on the front lines and kills the power.


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 Post subject: 12M Answer First Impressions
PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 5:04 pm 
got to ride my 12m answer today in 20mph gusting to 28mph. totally blown away! it almost felt like a new sport to me. like going from driving a dump truck to driving a new porche. turns like a 6m 'c' kite. i personally prefer that it doesn't give me that 100% depower of other bow kites. more like 80%. despite gusts to high 20's (i weigh 200lbs & have been kiting for 6 years) i never felt overpowered. stupidly huge jumos that actually scared me! i have been riding cabrinha nitro's, north rhino's, flexifoil storm II's & none of them jumped half as high. kite loops very easily, some might say too easily but you can do them more powered up if you prefer. not too much bar pressure. i'd say around the same as the waroo or sonic. way less than the cross bow. awesome in the waves. i like the way it maintains power through the bottom turn yet you can still dump plently of power. overall i am more than stoked. i rode for about 1 1/2 hrs then passed it on to a friend who was equally blown away. i am still getting used to having so much more performance. i already felt like i was riding better than ever. this kite is an unfair advantage for kiters who are just starting. i've been around since the days of two line foils & this kite makes everything just so stupidly easy & fun! i will write more when i've tried the 16m & gotten more used to such a pimped out ride!


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